Great Dad Bad Son

by Marguerite Granat on June 20, 2010

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Yesterday, at a party, I met a prison guard who works at the Supermax. I was fascinated by his work and we started a lively conversation. We got into some deep topics such as the nature of evil and whether these prisoners could be rehabilitated. The bottom line was that most of these individuals were sociopaths and many had killed children without any remorse for their actions.

Then I started thinking about the fathers of these men. How sad it must be for a great dad to have a son or daughter turn out a murderer. Isn’t it puzzling to know a great father with a disappointing son?

Marcus Aurelius was one of these fathers. He was a great dad who happened to have a disappointing son.

He was a humble man who demonstrated the highest levels of integrity. He also believed in consensus and collaboration even though as Emperor he had the option of making absolute decisions. One of his biggest accomplishments is his Meditations, a compilation of his philosophy-still inspiring millions of people today. Here he addresses questions such as why are we here? How should we live?

How could a man like Marcus produce a son like Commodus? Commodus is the emperor in the film the Gladiator. In true history he did not kill his father since they were not in the same location when his dad died. He is remembered as a tyrant just as bad as Caligula and Nero. He was so different than his father that this emphasized his evil ways and lack of character. He murdered a lot of people and kept a list of those who were going to be next. One day his mistress found her name on the list and hired someone to have him strangled-and this was the end of Commodus.

Regardless of how his son turned out, I believe that it did not diminish Marcus Aurelius as a father. 

Does a bad son determine whether a father did a good job or not?

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    • http://www.livinginbalancewithshauna.com Shauna Piscitello

      This poses an excellent question, one I often think about as a parent. The same question could be asked when your child is someone to be quite proud of – are we then “good” parents? It is easy to get our identity caught up in the actions of our children. It is true, our children are an extension of us, through our genes and our mentoring, but they are individuals who have every right to play out their own lives and karma. Parenting is challenged when we believe that what are children do reflects on us. If parents were less attached to this concept, then more children would grow up with the freedom to express and be who they truly are (and we, as parents, would have less gray hair). Thank you, Marguerite for the food for thought :)

      • Marguerite Granat

        Shauna, you make a good point that when we rely on external factors to determine our self image we’re in trouble. The toughest part in this whole game is to stay detached. Since I’m not a parent, I have not experienced getting caught up with the actions of children but I’m guilty of doing that with my pets. Great to have you stop by! Marguerite

    • http://www.wix.com/lisalahey/girltalkcareeradvice Lisa

      Interesting article. Right now I’m putting together a Ppt about psychopathology in children and the nature vs nurture argument. This case makes me wonder if there is something to a genetic link between good and evil, so to speak. Mind you we don’t know how much of Commodus’ care was directly through his father or some other guardian as was typically the case with these royals (and still is from what I can tell).
      That said, it is possible Commodus grew up with highly questionable influences. And although it sounds like his father was indeed a great man who knows what the private man was really like? Sometimes these people surprise us.
      Still in this case it seems like Commodus might be that rare breed who just turned out horrible in spite of great genes and a great dad.
      Sad.

      • Marguerite Granat

        Lisa, you might be right about who influenced Commodus. We might never know if he turned out a tyrant due to nature or by lack of nurturing. For instance, Elizabeth I who had a tyrannical father (Henry VIII) was fortunate to have Kate Ashley as her governess and later friend. This kind of stability probably helped Elizabeth cope with her traumatic childhood. On the other hand how we turn out may have nothing to do with the environment and it could be attributed to genes. Maybe a combination of both?
        Marguerite

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